http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/(c) Collage Video Forum0I don't believe MD has any standing abs. Not that I've seen and I've done the whole thing. It has an "on the floor" abs section.http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77489Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:33:09 GMTI couldn't find standing abs, where is it?http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77442Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:02:44 GMT MRS--KCM's standing abs in Muscle Definition. OUCH! As much as I love Cathe, I've always had issues with most of her ab work because it always hurt my lower back and I can never do the advanced versions without hurting myself. I'mhttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77437Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:27:19 GMTDenise, Do you also have KCM 30 min to fitness weights? Doing the workouts with the active recovery using abs is also great. Sandy Ohttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77434Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:37:00 GMTMRS--KCM's standing abs in Muscle Definition. OUCH! As much as I love Cathe, I've always had issues with most of her ab work because it always hurt my lower back and I can never do the advanced versions without hurting myself. I'm not coordinated ahttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77426Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:04:33 GMTMrs and Slinks--- Thanks for the reviews!  SO Helpful.  I think I'm going to go for it on my next order.  I can't see myself doing it with ankle weights yet---MRS, you are so amazingly fit---but sounds like I could work up to that, orhttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77408Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:06:15 GMTLOL MRS .. RR I echo MRS .. I LOVE this workout, I used to do the whole thing .. but I never use ankle weights they hurt my sciatica, that said I don't get doms with this .. I now only do the floor work of this too and it is so, so, so worth the $$http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77396Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:15:24 GMT MRS--- I've been on the fence about Karen's Great Weighted Workout for awhile now. But your recent posts on it are tempting me. I like Karen as an instructor. I have a couple of her work outs that I alwayshttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77391Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:28:04 GMTMRS--- I've been on the fence about Karen's Great Weighted Workout for awhile now.  But your recent posts on it are tempting me.  I like Karen as an instructor.  I have a couple of her work outs that I always think of as a light day and then endhttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77371Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:25:00 GMT This is a bit off topic but I recently did Travel Fit for the first time and i have DOMS in my lower abs from the ab section of this one. Denise, good to know about Travel Fit. Cathe works the lower abs A LOT in hhttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77367Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:00:19 GMTThis is a bit off topic but I recently did Travel Fit for the first time and i have DOMS in my lower abs from the ab section of this one.http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77352Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:03:01 GMTK1dub, I clicked on the first link I saw, which happened to be the FUPA hunter link-my mistake. So getting back to you, it may or may not go away. It really depends on your skins elasticity. If I am ever so fortunate to get to my goalhttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77347Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:14:27 GMTK1dub, I don't think you should get rid of your pilates.  From what I've read many who can't get rid of their belly fat any other way have results with pilates.  Most videos simply do not adequately work out your lower abdominals.  Pilates does.http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77346Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:14:00 GMTHi ladies and gents, I'm kind of surprised that this post was flagged inappropriate. My friends and I use this phrase all the time as slang and I never thought anything of it. I never pointed anyone to a specific link and as WOW pointed ouhttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77344Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:43:08 GMT Some of the best waist slimming exercises are in Slim Series workouts--jeesh, I need to pull those out again! MRS which ones in particular? Well, most of them have the standing waist crunchehttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77317Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:02:55 GMT Some of the best waist slimming exercises are in Slim Series workouts--jeesh, I need to pull those out again! MRS which ones in particular?http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77315Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:48:31 GMTJen, I agree. According to this article, k/b IS good for the waist, which I've always known.;) http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What's_the_easiest_way_thttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77314Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:38:25 GMTI think Jen may be onto something- a while ago I began to notice my body (hip/waist) looking a lot straighter. The measurement of my hips is now smaller as opposed tp my waist size increasing. I do think it was due to all the weight lifting Ihttp://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77306Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:28:29 GMTI thought kickboxing was good for the waist too. That is a good point Jen also what katie said about using the core more in exercises than before.http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77299Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:19:49 GMTK1dub, depending on how old you are will determine if you lose that belly pooch from what I understand. Skin is less elastic, has less ability to 'snap back', the older you get. Working the abs will develop the muscles but won't do a thing for the skin.http://www.collagevideo.com/forum/fb.ashx?m=77276Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:22:14 GMT